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		<title>By: Anton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 06:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have heard incredible stories of the praise and worship around Haiti just after the earthquake - many publicly declaring the goodness of God in the midst of calamity, holding onto His nature while natural thinking might say otherwise.

Many Haitians may be responding to this with more grace and understanding than those of us who are distanced (physically, emotionally and spiritually) from the tragedy.

Thanks for your posts. I love your final thoughts:
&quot;Christians, and others, who drive us crazy are not interruptions to us. They are the place where God happens!

And, &quot;So where is God? He is in Haiti.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have heard incredible stories of the praise and worship around Haiti just after the earthquake &#8211; many publicly declaring the goodness of God in the midst of calamity, holding onto His nature while natural thinking might say otherwise.</p>
<p>Many Haitians may be responding to this with more grace and understanding than those of us who are distanced (physically, emotionally and spiritually) from the tragedy.</p>
<p>Thanks for your posts. I love your final thoughts:<br />
&#8220;Christians, and others, who drive us crazy are not interruptions to us. They are the place where God happens!</p>
<p>And, &#8220;So where is God? He is in Haiti.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Eklund</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 22:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Pete. This is right on target, and somehow it brings more peace to my heart as I watch this horrible tragedy in Haiti unfold on CNN .  I asked a friend of mine, Darryl, who attends New Life Fellowship and who I consider a spiritual leader, how could God allow this to happen? Neither one of us could even fathom...I agree with you on PR—I think he needs to quietly retire.

Thank you so much for your words reminding us that God is a God of compassion and love, and He is in the process of renewing and transforming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Pete. This is right on target, and somehow it brings more peace to my heart as I watch this horrible tragedy in Haiti unfold on CNN .  I asked a friend of mine, Darryl, who attends New Life Fellowship and who I consider a spiritual leader, how could God allow this to happen? Neither one of us could even fathom&#8230;I agree with you on PR—I think he needs to quietly retire.</p>
<p>Thank you so much for your words reminding us that God is a God of compassion and love, and He is in the process of renewing and transforming.</p>
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		<title>By: William J. Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>William J. Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 04:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rev. Pat Robertson did NOT say Haitians deserved the quake. He recounted the fact that approximately 1/2 the population (liberal MSNBC verifies this - see link below) practices Voodoo which, as far as I understand it, is a de facto pact with the devil. If some Haitians engaged in Voodoo prior to and/or after the departure of the French then it stands to reason that after the French left those who engaged in Voodoo in an attempt to drive out the French would naturally serve him (the devil) whom they called upon in a quid pro quo pact. The devil is the Father of Lies and even if the devil promised to drive out the French it does NOT mean that he promised to keep Haitians safe from natural disasters and calamities -- or the devil said he would and lied. 

&quot;Out of this tragedy I am optimistic something good will come.&quot;  -- Rev. Pat Robertson.  Amen.

Other &quot;Christian&quot; countries, too, suffer calamities and natural disasters. The Haitians deserve calamity no more and no less than the rest of the world but if they collaborated with the father of lies than they increased the probability they would believe the lies Satan told them and likely suffer from them.

I am profoundly saddened by the tragic loss of life, limb, and property in Haiti. 

Still, this tragedy raises again a number of very HARD QUESTIONS which we&#039;re encouraged to ask, though I confess I don&#039;t know the definitive answers to.

It is common to hear Christians proclaim, &quot;Praise God,&quot; or &quot;Thank God,&quot; or &quot;God did it, not me,&quot; when something good occurs to them, their family, their community or nation. I usually Amen.

But in light of events in Haiti I must once again ask these hard questions, beginning with, &quot;Who do we attribute calamity to?&quot; God, Satan, the shifting of tectonic plates along a fault line? I don&#039;t know.

Can our universally and infinitely sovereign God truly be solely responsible for good and bad? Only the former? What part does Satan play in calamity and natural disasters? Do the truly innocent suffer? Are there groups of truly innocent people? Do those who engage in Voodoo never escape calamity? Only sometimes? Wycliffe Jean in Haiti stated today, &quot;This is apocalypse . . . there are NOT tens of thousands of dead, but hundreds of thousands.&quot;

God promised long ago never to send another flood upon the earth. Did this promise include every other possible calamity and natural disaster? It would not seem so. We read about Job, the Noahic flood, the tragic killing and taking into exile of the Jews, Ananias and Sapphira, etc., in the Bible. So, too, the Crucifixion.

I wonder. Should tragedy be openly spoken about, written down for others to read, and broadcast and commented upon by the media? I don&#039;t know. What I do know is that the Bible records not only tragedies, some of epic proportions, but also some of the reasons for them. Even post-resurrection Ananias and Sapphira&#039;s unfortunate demise is at least partially explained to us. It didn&#039;t seem quite right and fair to me.

For reasons I don&#039;t fully understand many of us think and/or believe that what is unacceptable and inappropriate as an explanation for modern day tragedies is fine, Biblical and &quot;godly&quot; for tragedies that occurred thousands of years ago to people long dead. Does this make sense? If so, why?

I understand it is much easier to accept a trait of God or a purpose for Satan that dates back thousands of years if it is demonstrative of anger, retribution, wrath, justice, testing, etc., than it is to accept in the modern era. In short, that was then, but NIMBY now.

Can we indeed have it both ways?

Note: NIMBY = Not In My Back Yard

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34829978/ns/world_news-haiti_earthquake/page/2/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DvGDXqdhYg&amp;feature=fvsr</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rev. Pat Robertson did NOT say Haitians deserved the quake. He recounted the fact that approximately 1/2 the population (liberal MSNBC verifies this &#8211; see link below) practices Voodoo which, as far as I understand it, is a de facto pact with the devil. If some Haitians engaged in Voodoo prior to and/or after the departure of the French then it stands to reason that after the French left those who engaged in Voodoo in an attempt to drive out the French would naturally serve him (the devil) whom they called upon in a quid pro quo pact. The devil is the Father of Lies and even if the devil promised to drive out the French it does NOT mean that he promised to keep Haitians safe from natural disasters and calamities &#8212; or the devil said he would and lied. </p>
<p>&#8220;Out of this tragedy I am optimistic something good will come.&#8221;  &#8212; Rev. Pat Robertson.  Amen.</p>
<p>Other &#8220;Christian&#8221; countries, too, suffer calamities and natural disasters. The Haitians deserve calamity no more and no less than the rest of the world but if they collaborated with the father of lies than they increased the probability they would believe the lies Satan told them and likely suffer from them.</p>
<p>I am profoundly saddened by the tragic loss of life, limb, and property in Haiti. </p>
<p>Still, this tragedy raises again a number of very HARD QUESTIONS which we&#8217;re encouraged to ask, though I confess I don&#8217;t know the definitive answers to.</p>
<p>It is common to hear Christians proclaim, &#8220;Praise God,&#8221; or &#8220;Thank God,&#8221; or &#8220;God did it, not me,&#8221; when something good occurs to them, their family, their community or nation. I usually Amen.</p>
<p>But in light of events in Haiti I must once again ask these hard questions, beginning with, &#8220;Who do we attribute calamity to?&#8221; God, Satan, the shifting of tectonic plates along a fault line? I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>Can our universally and infinitely sovereign God truly be solely responsible for good and bad? Only the former? What part does Satan play in calamity and natural disasters? Do the truly innocent suffer? Are there groups of truly innocent people? Do those who engage in Voodoo never escape calamity? Only sometimes? Wycliffe Jean in Haiti stated today, &#8220;This is apocalypse . . . there are NOT tens of thousands of dead, but hundreds of thousands.&#8221;</p>
<p>God promised long ago never to send another flood upon the earth. Did this promise include every other possible calamity and natural disaster? It would not seem so. We read about Job, the Noahic flood, the tragic killing and taking into exile of the Jews, Ananias and Sapphira, etc., in the Bible. So, too, the Crucifixion.</p>
<p>I wonder. Should tragedy be openly spoken about, written down for others to read, and broadcast and commented upon by the media? I don&#8217;t know. What I do know is that the Bible records not only tragedies, some of epic proportions, but also some of the reasons for them. Even post-resurrection Ananias and Sapphira&#8217;s unfortunate demise is at least partially explained to us. It didn&#8217;t seem quite right and fair to me.</p>
<p>For reasons I don&#8217;t fully understand many of us think and/or believe that what is unacceptable and inappropriate as an explanation for modern day tragedies is fine, Biblical and &#8220;godly&#8221; for tragedies that occurred thousands of years ago to people long dead. Does this make sense? If so, why?</p>
<p>I understand it is much easier to accept a trait of God or a purpose for Satan that dates back thousands of years if it is demonstrative of anger, retribution, wrath, justice, testing, etc., than it is to accept in the modern era. In short, that was then, but NIMBY now.</p>
<p>Can we indeed have it both ways?</p>
<p>Note: NIMBY = Not In My Back Yard</p>
<p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34829978/ns/world_news-haiti_earthquake/page/2/" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34829978/ns/world_news-haiti_earthquake/page/2/</a></p>
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